shruew's review of 300...

[RSshruew]

...in the style of Rom:

Wow.  Great movie, guys.  You really went all out with this one.  Good idea using swords, real original.  Where'd you get that idea, history?

This movie was alright.  I only went to go see it because a bunch of friends went and saw it.  For me, I'm waiting for James Cameron's The Avatar before I really start spending money on movies.  Anyway, here's the good and bad about 300.

Good)
- It had moving pictures, which is kind of neat.

Bad)
- Who has a giant hole in the middle of their palace?
- Isn't the movie, you know, kind of gay with all the mostly naked men getting penetrated in all sorts of usual ways
- Giant rhino getting killed with a one shot one kill spear throw.  Incredible.  Yeah right...
- Who the heck designs these maps?  I mean that cliff area is a total spawn campers dream!  I bet half the spartans were lagging.
- The spartan spear is way over balanced.  I mean, the monkey ninja sword in real life would be much faster attack.  In the movie, it worked, what, at most once in every five times?

So yeah.  People are going to throw their money at this movie and just feed the big company movie machine.  That will just encourage people to make more movies with such original ideas like "fighting" and "swords."  Whatever, I'm waiting for The Avatar...

Now, I haven't seen The Avatar and it won't be out for a couple of years.  But, I'm sure they actually will make sets for that movie, instead of just using the computer.  And, I'm pretty sure the fight sequences will be better.  I don't know why people would go see 300 when The Avatar will be totally better!

[RS-H2o]

LMFAO 

[Rom]

You're trying too hard.

[Bear]

Saw it. Historical accuracy....ummm...no. Yeah there were a few wtf moments. Entertaining anyway. Worth $7? Depends on you.

[Rom]

Hmm, I heard it was pretty good. Even a buddy I have that's critical of films said it was awesome.

I was watching the History channel today, and they were saying the Spartans actually killed THOUSANDS of Persians in the first day, not including the naval battle. I don't know about that. Here's some info my teacher sent me though. She did some quick searches.

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<http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/weaponswar/p/blpwtherm.htm>

<http://www.300spartanwarriors.com/the300spartans/paulcartledge.html>


Although Herodotus (the historian who wrote the original history of this
battle) put the numbers of invading forces at around 2.6 million -- most
modern historians believe this was closer to 800,000. Only 10,000 of
these actually attacked the Greeks at Thermopylae. In addition, the
Greek forces were not only 300 -- but 300 Spartans plus their allies
from other city-states. This brought the total to 6000-7000. The larger
numbers of Persians did not initially have a huge advantage in the close
quarters of the mountain pass.

The main reason the battle is remembered is that the Greeks who stayed
to fight knew they would all die in the battle -- and stayed anyway in
order to allow other Greeks to retreat. "

[RSsilentinsanity]

 . You Rom need to get laid. 

[GenG]

Rom if you wanted to be completely accurate, persia came with about 800,000 troops.

They were marching on athens, and had to go through the pass. The Greeks (all the city states) gathered their gorund troops(about 7000) under the spartan kind Leonidas. The lesser trained and armed persians got cut down the first few days of battle because they charge the phalanax, basicly stright into a spear point.

Then the persians moved around and flanked the greeks. Most of the troops retreated but the 300 soldiers from sparta and some others (overall a number of around 1000) stayed, and died.

The reason the spartans are remembered, i think, is because their king fought and died in the suicidal mission.

That's the battle in a nutshell, not including the naval battle, which sparta had no part in (sparta remember had no navy at that time, or during the pelopenesian wars)

[Rom]

D'oh!  Rom, I narfed your post.  I must have hit the modify button next to the quote one and ate it.   

[Rom]

LOL are you taking after Bush? Slowly taking away moral values?

[Hollowpoint]

I can't wait to see this movie. Soon, oh yes, soon.

[Giberish]

saw it was pretty kickass movie, sept for he guy with the swords as arms, was dissapointed he didn't fight..but the movie was never to be bassed off the historical stuff, it did have some of it in there but i twas off the comic, and it was very similar to it also...very nicely done..and the stage they used..1 of hte seens of them falling of the rock..that was used 3-4 times for the movie, one for the rock part, 2nd was looking of the enemy camp..i think also when he climbed to talk to the gods..u now the part with the drugged up chick with boobs showing ya that part and i forget the other seen not sure

[rsblackzilla]

Did anyone notice the quasimoto-igor lookin character couldn't lift his shield above his shoulders. The king wouldn't let him fight because he would weaken the phalynx. That shield must've been pretty heavy, huh? Well, the queen must've been strong as hell caus she had no problem handing the shield to the king before he left for Hell's Gate   :wall banger:   

[Hollowpoint]

Hey Blackzilla, I think it may not have been an issue of strenght, but more of an issue of physical ability. His deformed body could not move enough. Because he sure did toss it off the cliff with no problem.

[RSshruew]

Actually, zilla, you bring up one of the reasons I didnt like the movie as much as the book.  So, for whatever reason the deformed dude can't raise the shield and that would weaken the phalanx.  But, the spartans weren't in the phalanx 98% of the movie anyway.....

[Rom]

BLACK!!!

Yeah, I noticed that Leonidus denied him because of that sole reason, and they did that move once, and they weren't even under attack (Leonidus and 16 left or w/e, before he threw the lance).
When the volley of arrows came, they covered themselves, but individually, not in formation.

BUT you have to realize no one knew that arrows wouldn't be used a lot. So Leonidus turned him down because he could not say if they will or will NOT use the phalynx.